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"speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr.) James Nyikal",
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"content": "I had the opportunity when I was in the Ministry of Gender… As the hon. lady from Baringo was speaking, people were joking. We were approaching the elderly people, the custodians and involved them in discussions. At the time, we were able to get a signed agreement by the elders, the Njuri Ncheke in Meru, in West Pokot and in Kuria. Looking at the data, it has had some effect."
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