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    "id": 1032387,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1032387/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Nambale, ANC",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Sakwa Bunyasi",
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        "legal_name": "John Sakwa Bunyasi",
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    "content": "that we are dealing with. Then we can begin to think about the kind of pressure we can bring to bear on institutions like NHIF, for which people are making contributions even without COVID- 19. The way it provides support is not clear. There are people who can get half a million shillings support while others can only get bed refund and so on. Whatever else the Board decides has to come out to the people. So, this COVID-19, if given a chance, is a spotlight on the institutions and on the chain in the health sector. I hope that the NHIF will look into this issue. But I doubt that they will have an internal capacity even to look at themselves. In fact, the CS should take a keen interest on how to rein in on institutions that depend on peoples’ taxes or the contributions of wananchi, no matter what proportion they put in those institutions... If we do not do that, I do not see an internal will to do it. I do not see any capacity that they would look into themselves to get this done. Normally, it hits the headlines. That is the punishment they get. It goes underground and you never hear of it. I guess it dies a natural death. You might fire somebody, a billionaire, who might come and go and live of that money that he or she has made. It is really important to have some measures to support Wanjiku. It is extremely important. It cannot just be that we, including ourselves here and the elites, are always worrying about including possibilities that we can probably go right across the country or even outside and get some sort of support provided. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, we must now think about the Republic. As we think about the Republic, we must worry about everybody who is inside this Republic. We should ask: How would they cope without this kind of assistance? We just cannot leave people to their own chances. When people bring in God, I get really concerned. We deal with God in very many spheres and it cannot be that each time we are reluctant to confront a situation, we just hope for prayer. It cannot be that we call a national prayer day when it should have been a day of looking deeply into what it is that is going wrong and that is ailing our country. We are not going to run on prayer. I am sure even the Vatican does not run on prayers. As you know, being a Catholic, I can talk about the Vatican. There are actions within our control and that is not being done. I really like what this Motion will help us to reflect on. People cannot get away with things and simply think that, that is how it happens in Kenya, and let us leave the rest to God. Lastly, when I think about the cases for example what was reported about Hon. Justus Makokha Murunga, when this devolution went to the health sector, the national Government remained with the responsibility of policy coordination. What is wrong with the national Government not auditing these institutions and calling them out saying: “You do not have the basics! You cannot save a dying kid having malaria and you cannot save anybody. Did you want to get oxygen or a ventilator?” When will they call them out so that they can begin to focus on those things? Why do we just…"
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