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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker Sir. The Chairman of the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights is here. Tomorrow, the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights and the Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations will be meeting the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC), the Cabinet Secretary (CS) in charge of security, and the National Cohesion and Integration Commission (NCIC). I think that your direction on this matter will be very important, so that this matter is taken to that Committee as quickly as possible. I agree with Sen. Khaniri. In the reports that are already in that Committee, the NCIC, the IEBC and the Ministry have admitted that under the Constitution, there is nothing that they can do. Following the advice of your Senator, the Senator of Bungoma, one of your legacies other than the formula will be to find a formula for disputes of boundaries. I plead with you that in the meetings that you have with your brother from the sister House, the question of boundaries be anchored into law during your tenure. It is important. It is not a Money Bill, and will never be a Money Bill, because boundaries of counties are matters concerning counties. It is actually so illogical. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we are counting on you to find for us something that we can do as quickly as possible to ensure that these boundary disputes are formalized. In fact, the formation of an independent commission in the Constitution is only for purposes of altering the boundary. That is the purpose of that commission. To have a boundary dispute resolved, we have proposed alternative dispute resolutions, so that the Governor of Kisumu County does not wake up in the middle of the night and become an expansionist. He is our friend. The only thing he has not done is to expand the territory of Kisumu to the lake. It is unfortunate. Mr. Speaker, Sir, in due time, I will retrieve his comments on the previous Bill. One of the supporters of that Bill was Hon. (Prof.) Anyang’-Nyong’o. It is unfortunate. However, since his good friend is here, Sen. Khaniri, might as well tell him that these expansionist policies will not help him. What is much worse is that as a person who supported devolution, he is creating disputes for all of us. If every governor does what Gov. (Prof.) Anyang’-Nyong’o is doing, we are going to have a crisis. It is very unfortunate, because from the statements we are hearing around, somebody will create an excuse for violence by creating a problem around a boundary that does not exist. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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