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    "speaker_name": "The Temporary Deputy Speaker",
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    "content": "I want to move that this Motion is in order. It is being protected by the amendment in (b). It should also be taken note of that we are looking for “through a planned progressive programme”. I am sure the Mover was so guided. However, if in the proposed amendments we did not have the phrase: “Through a planned progressive programme”, Hon. Makali would have been very correct because it would have brought a constitutional issue. Members, you may be aware that for most of the Motions you bring into the House we urge, as the substantive Speaker keeps on saying, urging is urging. Hon. Makali is right. Resolving is resolving. It has a money or budgetary implication. For this matter, the Member is substituting the urging with resolving, but not on planned or budgeted funds. This is progressive, in future. It will be in the next Budget. Hon. Makali, an Economist, a daktari and a Member of the Budget and Appropriations Committee, is very much aware of the procedures of the House and issues that touch on the Budget. So, with this import, the amendment proposed “through a planned progressive programme” has not committed the programme to any budget of this financial year. That is why Dr. Nyikal was so sure to use the words “through a planned progressive programme”. You know Parliament has a lot of clerks, lawyers and experts. With that guidance, I rule that the Motion is in order as it is protected by the words “through a planned progressive programme” and is also informing Members of the difference between urging and resolving, as it was very well cited by Hon. Makali Mulu. He also served in the last Parliament like myself. The Member for Taveta, the Commissioner, has served for four terms. There is a great difference. When our Motions are presented, they go through a process before they are approved. I can hear a Member suggesting that I put the Question, but let us first hear from Hon. Makali Mulu."
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