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    "id": 1036417,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Suba North, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Ms.) Odhiambo-Mabona",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 376,
        "legal_name": "Millie Grace Akoth Odhiambo Mabona",
        "slug": "millie-odhiambo-mabona"
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    "content": "I hope you are listening very carefully. There are administrative things that cannot be criminal offence. It is saying a person commits an offence if, without lawful excuse, ignores or fails to obey any instruction issued by a member of the board. In this case, that means that because I refused to listen to my Chief Executive Officer (CEO) at that time, it would have been a criminal offence because I am a ‘ kichwa ngumu’. I am sorry for using those words. So, you cannot punish me for being ‘ kichwa ngumu’, but you can punish me for the other provisions stated like if I stop the crop inspectors from getting into the premise and there is punishment provided for that. The other provision which we were sharing with Hon. Eve also gives punishment and there is a blanket one which covers every other offence. So, actually, this is a very dangerous provision and I oppose."
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