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    "id": 1037526,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1037526/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mandera North, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Major (Rtd.) Bashir S. Abdullaih",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 13417,
        "legal_name": "Bashir Sheikh Abdullah",
        "slug": "bashir-sheikh-abdullah"
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    "content": "This Charter also talks about independence and holding governments to account. I have noted that it specifically talks about the independence of the Judiciary. The jury is still out there. What do we mean by the independence of the judiciary? In the BBI structure now, different individuals are interpreting the issue of the independence of the Judiciary differently. But this Charter advocates and guarantees the member States to ensure that the judiciary is independent. One of the things that BBI is focusing on is the issue of the Ombudsman. How independent is it? Is it independent in terms of appointment or is it independent in terms of functions/performance? We seem not to understand when we talk about the independence of the Judiciary. How independent is the judiciary in terms of appointments, its function or the job that an individual is supposed to perform? Is it independent? The other thing is this: They talk about the coups that used to happen before or people not accepting results. This is about African nations. So, when you look at the entire agreement, it is actually very good. The most important part is this: Are we going to implement as African States? All the Articles in the Charter are in tandem with our Constitution; they are not in conflict with our laws and regulations. We have also seen the African Union itself not being able to stamp its authority on many African countries that go against the same Charter that they have signed and ratified. So, we are talking about an African Union which is toothless. This is very good. It is in paper and quite in order, but how do we implement? Do we have African courts where we can try people who are in violation of governance and election? We do not have. So, I think it is very good and, as a country, it is the right time that we ratified this Charter. We will ask the House to agree and approve the Agreement."
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