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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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        "legal_name": "Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": "Madam Deputy Speaker, I have heard some of the comments while I was in the corridor. The statements by Sen. Malalah are unfortunate. That can easily lead to the impression that we have made a decision. I have said this before and want to repeat that the Plenary session is unlike the committees because in the Committee report, it is the first time, I am dealing with an impeachment without my big volume. There is always precedent that we have followed. Ms. Eunice Gichangi is here, our very good Deputy Clerk who has assisted us in various impeachment proceedings using legal authority. For purposes of legal authority, it is not like you are introducing evidence. This gentleman, my learned friend for the Assembly, talked about threshold and our duty. One of them mentioned that there were nexus, which is legal authority. I do not think there will be any prejudice if he cited an authority with regard to impeachment proceedings, provided also that the lawyers of the Assembly can respond. Even then, since Mr. Nyamu is a senior lawyer, it is only fair that at the very least those authorities should have been availed to his junior counsel long before, so that we avoid this idea that you are ambushing them with legal authority. The idea of submitting authority is that your colleagues should have an opportunity to counter that authority. You are disadvantaging them to some extent because they are going to comment on your authorities, as opposed to producing counter authorities. There is really no harm because we have set precedent and there is legal authority, but the only objection--- In future, we are going to request counsels to do written submissions with their authorities, so that then non-lawyers can benefit from the wisdom of these authorities. Some of us might understand these legal authorities, but not everybody is a lawyer in this Chamber. I hope with the wisdom of Sen. Wetangula, who is our senior and more senior than anybody else except Sen. Wako, there is reason in trying to balance it, so that nobody says that they were not given an opportunity. We have sat here for a whole day; I do not think the authority will take one hour."
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