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    "id": 1047001,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Suna East, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Junet Nuh",
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        "legal_name": "Junet Sheikh Nuh",
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    "content": "When I go through such a process, you cannot convince me in any way that you want to have a multiple choice question on the BBI Bill that I am promoting. It is dishonest to say that you want to have a multiple choice question on a Bill promoted by different people. Having said that, I want to urge Members that they should not look at this Bill with partisan lenses. That, we are going to have a referendum on a Bill because it is being propagated by so and so. Tomorrow, you may have your own Bill, desirous to change a few parts of the Constitution. Think along that line. You may want to use the multiple choice question against me now, but tomorrow I can apply it against you. I will tell you if want to amend the Constitution, bring a multiple choice question I decide on it. Let us be objective and legislate for posterity. Let us look at what is in the best interest of Kenyans. That is when we will succeed as a House. The other thing I agree with Hon. Duale is that, there are no timelines. This Bill is going to help us put timelines on how we are going to conduct the change of the Constitution through a referendum. One thing I do not agree with him is on how a Bill is going to be transacted at the level of the county assemblies and Parliament. Bills are Bills. When they land here in Parliament, there is a process. It has to be taken to the Speaker for approval then it goes to the House Business Committee that slots it for First and Second Readings. That is how law is made in Parliament. Hon. Speaker, you do not need to address that. After all, this is one Bill that we will not be able to amend. So, there is no reason why we should argue on how the Bill is going to be processed at the county assemblies’ level or in the National Assembly. Hon. Speaker, we have been in touch with some of the counties that have passed the BBI Bill and some have done proper public participation. Counties were trained when devolution came into place by experts from this House on how to conduct processes on Bills. Some of them have done public participation by taking the Bill through all the processes that a Bill needs to go through. For that reason, I want to urge Members to pass this Bill so that we have a Bill that is going to guide us and help us in conducting referenda in many years to come. We must also understand that there is a difference between a question – as the Leader of the Majority Party, Hon. Kimunya has put – and a Bill. If you want to ask a question like the Hon. Speaker has said on the same sex, you will ask Kenyans: Do you support the same sex in this country or you do not? Then they can say yes or no. You can ask: Do you want to leave the East Africa Community (EAC)? Then they can answer yes or no. But this is a Bill that contains issues that relate to each other from Clause 1 to Clause 100 and then you tell me we need to have a multiple-choice referendum. Go and develop your own Bill. Nothing stops one from developing their own Bill unless you fear collecting one million The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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