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    "id": 1050029,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Getrude Musuruve Inimah",
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    "content": "is need to even query whether there are such classrooms, water or health facilities and people delivering or dying on the streets. We will be doing well as a Senate when we interrogate these issues. The Committee should continue auditing so that county executives come here and we see that they are doing their work. It is unfortunate that county executives can be summoned to the Senate and fail to attend because it is the same Senate that disburses money. It is their onus to come to the Senate and tell the Senate: “This is the amount of money we were given and this is how we utilized it”. They should also tell us whether they are having pending bills. There is nothing wrong with being frank and honest. In fact, they are more credible when they come to the Senate and say: “Yes, I was given this amount of money for my county, but it was not enough. This is what I did and these are the pending bills.” Before counties are given money, they should talk about pending bills. County executives should not be given money if they have not cleared pending bills. They should explain if there are projects that were supposed to be done, but were not done. The purpose of audit is to ensure that there is transparency, accountability and service to wananchi. That is our core business here as a Senate. We do not have greater business other than defending the counties and the interests of the counties. Audit reports are mandatory and should be done yearly. The Committee can even visit the counties on a quarterly basis to see what they are doing as the indicators of development. The CPAIC should go a notch higher and ensure that they see the visible projects that are being done at the counties. Sometimes the projects that are done on paperwork are sometimes not there at the counties. There is need to ensure that they do impromptu visits and ensure services are given to Kenyans. We are mandated constitutionally to do that as a Senate, especially when it comes to completion of projects. There is need for CPAIC to bring county executives to answer as to why there are pending bills and projects. I know of a hospital somewhere that was started long time in the last Parliament and has never been completed. Money allocated to counties should be desegregated so that it goes to different projects. When county executives come before the CPAIC, they should show that they have allocated the money. After doing that, county executives should be frank and tell CPAIC they are ready for the projects to be inspected so that they are seem to be working. This Report should not only be annual; even midway through the year, there is need for CPAIC to go and see what is happening. As a Senate, we need to oversight the projects that are there because CPAIC alone is not enough. We want to give service to Kenyans and we have to go and confirm in the counties that Kenyans are getting service delivery. There is need for the Senate to oversight what is happening in the counties. It is the onus of this House to do exactly that. The only challenge is that when it comes to oversight, it becomes very difficult because of money issues. Madam Temporary Speaker, if we had the money to oversight counties, it would be easy for us to know what is happening in the counties since we would be able to conduct our oversight function properly. I believe that the money meant to oversight The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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