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    "id": 1051893,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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    "content": "is not paying property taxes for purposes of buildings in Nairobi, including where we are seated today. Public debt is a matter of concern. When I moved the Motion to reject the ceiling all of you were looking at me with glazed eyes. I will not tell you why you were looking at me with glazed eyes, but I will repeat: It is a matter of concern. It is crowding out division of revenue. I am not concerned about the others. We must continue asking the necessary questions about public debt. When we were discussing this issue Mr. Temporary Speaker made a side comment and he referred to the question of public debt. You approved it here, but it is a matter of concern. It concerns me my dear colleagues, that whether it is now or later with a Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of Kshs10 billion, we are now talking about a debt of Kshs7.8 billion and the Chairman says we are going to reach the threshold of Kshs9 billion in a year. It is a matter of concern. So, the question of retiring expensive loans is a matter that we should discuss. I want a President who will be so radical that we must default on some of the Chinese loans. We must say ―No‖ to some of these debts. We must say that these debts were obtained by Kenya through force, coercion, undue influence or whatever it is. We must refuse. I am looking for a President who will say ―No‖ to this. Who will be that person?"
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