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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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    "content": "Kenya is written, it will have a chapter about the unnecessary borrowing by the Jubilee Government. We must say so whether we cooperate or agree, it does not really matter. However, that chapter will say that we have committed unforgivable sins to generations and generations to come. What Sen. Kibiru said is correct about the KRA. I have sat to negotiate on behalf of clients on payment of taxes. The Act talks about promoting a business environment. You cannot criminalize payment of taxes. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, these people go to lawyers and take away their money. They do not even ask where that money comes from. They have crippled business. I think they can approach this in a better way. A young person called me yesterday and said he used to have houses in Mukuru Kwa Njenga, where he was making Kshs12,000 every month. He said: ―These people are pursuing me and I want to run away.‖ He has run away. That is just an ordinary Kenyan. There is no waste that Sen. Orengo is talking about. The waste that we see in the Government is part and parcel of the reason an ordinary does not want to pay taxes. It is assumed that you want to buy those nice gadgets that fly at night, but during the day, you push 16th Century equipment called wheelbarrows. It is a contradiction. Kenyans can see through some of these acts that you continue perpetuating in the name of improving the economy of other people. We have made our general suggestions here. I hope under Section 25, the National Treasury will comply with the things we have said, the report and recommendations on debt, division of revenue and policy regarding conditional grants. This is just a policy. We are waiting for the acts themselves when the Bills are tabled pursuant to it, so that we can see whether the National Treasury has complied with our recommendations. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am glad Sen. Orengo is here – I hope we can find in some form when we can discuss serious issues. When you give the Judiciary Kshs17 billion, it is a mockery. Why does the Government think that the Judiciary is just an unnecessary appendage of Kenya? Why would we give Parliament Kshs37 billion? As Parliament, we can only interrogate the Ministries. Why would you do that? The Judiciary has courts all over the country. Parliament is only centered in Nairobi; it is unfortunate. A department like Immigration makes Kshs14 billion. I have asked for the amount of money we are collecting through court fees, fines et cetera . Probably, you will find it is more than the money we give the Judiciary. It is unfair to train 7,000 lawyers, hire 47 judges of the Supreme Court and High Court, and they have no work to do because they do not have money for fuel, and you have a convoy of guzzlers, like the one of Sen. Cheruiyot. It is unfortunate. Ours is a bad country."
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