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    "id": 1051921,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Cheruiyot",
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        "legal_name": "Aaron Kipkirui Cheruiyot",
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    "content": "We had a big discussion about the Roads Bill, and you will remember the points that were being proposed here as to why people think that it will still be a danger to devolve Class C roads and downwards to our counties. I was still thinking about what we will do with it. Members of this House came up with a good proposal. I think it was from the Committee that was chaired by Sen. Wamatangi. They said that if we devolve these funds as part of the fuel levy, then Senators have a role to oversight. You know what the National Assembly does with this money; they are allocated per constituency. We are all politicians and understand the process that goes on into ensuring this. Sometimes you will find that on the same road, today a Member of the National Assembly will be there with a tipper and some murram, and Kenya Rural Roads Authority (KeRRA) pays for that road. A few weeks down the line, MCAs also come and say that they want to do the road in a better way. However, all these are schemes through which we are losing funds. We have raised our concerns about this particular proposal that is not well thought out. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, let me say this for the record. In my two terms at Parliament, this House has only had one chance to have their voice heard on the issue of debt. I am proud of how the people of Kericho voted with regards to how we should be managing our debt as a country. First of all, we told the CS that without a good basis and a good proposal on how he intends to retire most of these expensive commercial debts that we have taken, we cannot give him the approval. That is why we voted ―no‖ on that particular Motion when it came to this House. That problem still persists. Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. wonders why the CS for the National Treasury could not come. I can tell him for free that it is because the last time he appeared before the Committee on Finance and Budget, the debt list that he provided before us was in excess of Kshs8 trillion. How comes in the BPS they claim that the debt register stands at Kshs7.2 trillion? We are going to ask those questions. I do not know if our colleagues in the National Assembly have time for those kinds of questions."
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