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    "id": 1052188,
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    "speaker_name": "Kipipiri, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Amos Kimunya",
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        "legal_name": "Amos Muhinga Kimunya",
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    "content": "first title deed – the way I look at it from the reading of the Committee’s Report – needs to be registered. It will be the title for the public utility and then other titles will follow. Issuance is almost simultaneous. The public land that has been set aside will be registered as the first item and all the others will be registered later. I think that cures the mischief, which is that people have set aside some land, but then they have not set aside the appetite to be part or partakers of that land. I think that will solve the problem. I think that is the thing that has been identified and is included in the amendments. It is that Government land; there is a system in which it is allocated. If it is not specific, like for example for Kipipiri NG-CDF or for a certain public school, all that land is allocated to the Principal Secretary for the National Treasury as an institution pursuant to the National Treasury Act. Therefore, there is now that provision in terms of not just saying it will be religious or public body, the Committee is actually proposing three ways of registering public land. This is just to align it with the current laws and with the current regulation. Therefore, basically, I think the spirit of the Bill is good and we must commend the Member for Ruiru as a wearer of a shoe that has pinched so hard to actually get him to come and appeal to us to see the point of registering all those pieces of land that are public. In addition, the only thing we need to do is to be alert and for the Member to accept that we need some amendments even for clarity. This is so that we do not end up passing a Bill that creates more problems or that is not practical. It becomes a challenge. Not like the challenge here, but it could be challenged in court. In addition, I know the various players. The National Land Commission and the Attorney-General have brought their proposals on it and so, it is something that has attracted quite some attention and I must commend the Hon. Member. So, let us support the Bill and any others that Members may wish to bring plus the necessary amendments as captured in the Committee, so that we can sort out this issue of the injustices that have come up on public land and they are quite a number. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, it is painful when you see children not going to school and yet, they used to have a school. Recently, we saw a case at Lang’ata Primary where school children were tear-gassed when they were fighting to have their land back. We have seen in other areas within the public roads and forests. We saw the late Prof. Wangari Maathai being tear-gassed and fought while trying to save Uhuru Park and Karura Forest. All those are public lands and yet, people had the audacity to try to commercialize them as part of campaign financing. When we start talking about some of the issues, saying there are people who have been evicted from Kariobangi and so on, the timing may have been wrong because of COVID-19. However, nobody, small or big, has the right to occupy land that is set aside for public good."
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