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    "id": 1052641,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Garissa Township, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Aden Duale",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Aden Bare Duale",
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    "content": " Hon. Speaker. First of all, I thank you because you have made a very good ruling. All reports that are tabled here have your signature. Now, we have a Report and annexures which are coming. So, which is which? The Report that we picked was the one that you appended your signature. It was tabled and Notice of Motion was given. I had prepared myself to debate this matter. I have said it and will say it again when I am contributing that going forward, we must amend the Treaty Making and Ratification Act. I read this thing and the ratification by the House of Commons and the House of Lords. They are involved in the negotiation. So, we must, in fact, amend the Treaty Making and Ratification Act so that before a report comes here, the relevant committee of this House is involved in the initial negotiation between the two executives. That is one thing we need to do. Secondly, now that we have realised this Report is not complete… The matter is so grave and should not bother you. You are the Chair. You need to even get the Report, do the annex and do a second tabling and give a Notice of Motion and then we discuss it because this House has the powers. I remember I stayed with the difference agreement between the UK and Kenya for over one-and-a-half years and because the House had issues, I was forced to maneuver. So, this one touches on taxation and Hon. Wanga is right. We cannot open this matter. This matter must be dealt with by three committees - the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co-operatives, the Committee on Finance and National Planning and the Committee on Regional Integration. This matter is touching on the East African Community (EAC). Anything we do with our Custom Union, any taxation is sensitive if it touches on what we have agreed with our neighbours. So, the Committee on Finance that deals with taxation, the Committee on Regional Integration that deals with how we live within the EAC and the Committee on Trade needs to sit and look at this matter. I was prepared and also got the annexures over lunch hour. You know Hon. Aden is a nice, soft and decent Chair from my region. So, he gave me the annexures over lunch hour. Now, the bigger picture is: You cannot introduce documents after a report has been signed by the Hon. Speaker of the National Assembly, tabled and a Motion given. You cannot sneak in an annex. Right now, if I want to table anything, the first thing is to find out whether that document is admissible. So, even these annexures which are being sneaked in, their admissibility is in question. This is because you did not look at it. So, this is a good decision that you have made. We are not in a hurry and that is why the Constitution gave the people of Kenya and this House the power to ratify. So, Hon. Aden, do not be in a hurry. We want to have a win-win situation. The British have left the European Union (EU). Hon. Speaker, this matter is so serious because we are doing business with the rest of the EU. This House has passed the Europe Economic Partnership Agreement (EPA) where Tanzania, Uganda and Rwanda refused and gave us problems. So, if we go with the UK, how would the rest of Europe react? If we go with the UK, how will our neighbours react? So, this matter is important. We must deal with it and the Chairman should just go back as you directed. Going forward, Hon. Speaker, do not allow a Chairman to table a report here and then during the moving of that report, they introduce an annex. The Hon. Speaker must approve everything, including annexes. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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