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"content": "may say that he does not like this governor because he is stealing or he is not doing well, but based on facts, reports and it is real time. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we can ask for special audits through the PAO. It is something we can explore. Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., you sit in the Committee on Budget and Finance and you are patched high up in the leadership. This is something we can explore not just as a legacy, but to actually make the work of the Senate as provided for in the Constitution more effective as opposed to me looking at reports of 2014/2015 and then trying to understand the most recent report. If we had a PAO, on the most recent report by the Auditor-General, I can sit with them and go through this with the Executive and the Legislature of Nairobi City County, the NMS and know whether the people of Nairobi are getting value for money and the taxes that they are paying. We argue in this House and fight for allocations-- Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am proud as the Senator for Nairobi City County that in my time I moved our allocation from Kshs15 billion to Kshs19 billion. The first year was Kshs15.6 billion then Kshs15.8 billion, and we have gone up. So far, we are at Kshs19 billion. If we pass the Building Bridges Initiative (BBI), which I know will be passed, if Kenyans deem it fit for us to pass it, Nairobi City County will immediately get Kshs25 billion. Why would we be fighting so much on how much money we give our counties and then when it comes to how it is used, we are years behind? It does not make sense. I am sure the rest of the Senators can say what they have received. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Senator for Samburu was arrested because of looking for resources for his county. Why is it that when you are hunting, we put so much effort as a Senate, but with regard to our oversight role, we are not facilitated? People should get it right. This is because I have said in this House that I will not support the oversight money that Members wanted. This is because it looks like we are trying to get resources for ourselves. Mr. Temporary Speaker, first of all, we had refused to use a formula. You wanted to give us all the same amount of money. The Senator for Nairobi City with 85 wards and 17 constituencies with 4.3 million was supposed to get the same money as Lamu with two constituencies. Even if we were to have meetings, you cannot do the same number of meetings. If you were to meet 100 people per ward, automatically for me it is 8,500. That is why I do not support it. We want to be facilitated to do oversight and audit. It is this kind of oversight that I am talking about. We can have auditors, accountants, experts in finance and people who can do service on different issues. I can decide this year, with that fund, I want to concentrate on infrastructure and to find out why infrastructure is being done, solid waste management in Nairobi, and to understand how the social programmes are being done. That is what that kind of money should have been used for. That is what we should be doing. However, by having the human resource of a PAO, we should be able to do so. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the next point that I have seen in these audit reports is the matter of revenue. As a country, we are getting to that point where we need to have that conversation. Many times we say it in passing or almost as a joke, that we concentrate so much on sharing the cake and not enough on baking it. We have a Commission on Revenue Allocation (CRA). We will soon need a commission of revenue generation. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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