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    "id": 1057158,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Sakaja",
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        "legal_name": "Johnson Arthur Sakaja",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I wanted Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to go towards the end so that I inform him because I did not want to stop that flow. Now he is like a preacher. When he starts, he gets fire. There is is a lot of wisdom in many jurisdictions that still have the office of the Controller and Auditor-General. I think it is something that we need to discuss. If you look at the old Public Audit Act and many jurisdictions, I will just give you an example. There is the audit function that the Auditor-General does, but the controller function actually compliments and enables that audit function. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, if you look at New Zealand, the Controller and Auditor-General is stipulated - and anyone can look at it. In its controller function, something that Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. has just mentioned. The main features of the controller function are: (i) Treasury supplies monthly statements to the Auditor-General to examine where the expenses and capital expenditure have been incurred in keeping with the appropriations. (ii) The Auditor-General there can direct a Minister to report to the House of Representatives like the National Assembly if the Auditor-General believes that any expenditure incurred is unlawful or applied for a purpose that is not within the scope, amount or period or an appropriation or other statutory authority. Then they can stop payments from a Crown Bank account or a departmental bank account to prevent money from being used for a purpose that is unlawful or inconsistent with any appropriation. This is what we need in this country. One is in a building in town and another one is somewhere else. They are not sharing these reports. Money is being withdrawn and used for very different purposes and then we find out later as morticians two or three years later; if even we are able to find out. When they do not share that, the Auditor-General is not able to tell us that this money was not used for its intended purpose. It is something to rethink. Bring back the office of the Controller and Auditor-General. Maybe we just wanted to create two jobs. I do not know. However, I just wanted to inform him that many other jurisdictions still have that distinction, especially in the Commonwealth countries."
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