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    "content": "Firstly, gone are the times that the Ministry of Finance was seen as the whole and sole pillar of development. This morning, we had a very passionate appeal from the Minister telling us the problems that they are facing. One of the things that stuck in my mind very clearly, which was clearly said, is that it is the task of the Ministriesâ concerned to raise their own Budget. They should send their proposals for consideration in the Budget. When the Budget has been agreed, the Ministry should work within that Budget. He brought up the issue of the Kshs1.34 billion that was yesterday or the day before, approved for salaries for the university lecturers. I was surprised to hear that this was not even budgeted for in the Ministry of Education and yet the Ministry of Education knew that this was a problem. So, it appears to me that the Ministry of Finance is working on crisis management. What happens if another Ministry does not prepare and work out its Budget properly and there is a shortfall or a political problem? We will all go running to the Ministry of Finance asking for more money. I would like to clarify something. If you look at it on a very simplistic way, apart from the other work that the Ministry of Finance does, let us see it as a finance directorate, it also has a function of a cashier. That is one function. It is not what they do, but that is one of their functions. They collect the money and dispense it in accordance with the Budget that they have been given. When somebody says that he wants Kshs1.34 billion, which he did not budget for, then he runs to the Ministry and says that the Treasury must find more money for him, then that is not proper. So, when the Treasury goes around trying to negotiate where it can get some money, then we say that the Treasury has cut down our Budget. These days are gone. The Budget Committee is now set under the Fiscal Management Act. We have had a number of meetings in respect of the Budget and it has been very illuminating. We would like to give that sort of credence to the Office of Deputy Prime Minister and Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of State for Planning, National Development and Vision 2030 to work with the Budget Committee and other House Committees on these issues, so that they can hold Ministries responsible and accountable for the Budgets that they have prepared. Of course, they are what we call non-committal expenses, which we have to look at. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I remember during the Moi regime, he made it very clear and that is one thing that we must appreciate. He said at one time that: âthere is no money for salary increase for teachersâ. I remember that very clearly. He said: â Hakuna pesa â, and we stuck with it. He said: âThere is no money. So, do what you wantâ. The situation is that if you have not planned for it, you cannot get money out of somewhere. These are the situations that we must look at. One Minister said that he was not part and parcel of the Nyayo regime or rather the Nyayo Era when I studied because I was older. But there are a number of Members who were in primary school and even drank the Nyayo milk, and some of them are smiling. During that time, we never heard of issues of shortage of money, but, obviously, there were. I am trying to get at the fact that the Office of Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Finance together with the Ministry of State for Planning, National Development and Vision 2030 are key players in the Budget making process and running the country and the Treasury, then dispenses the money. The other Ministries must also play their role. You cannot start jumping up and down that the Ministry of Health has no drugs if you have not planned what you are going to do and have those drugs. Obviously, you cannot plan for a Budget of Kshs500 billion when the total Budget is Kshs800 billion. You have to prioritize your issues. I want to commend the Office of Deputy Prime Minister and Ministry of Finance, but I want to tell them one thing. Please, do not be dragged into crisis management as much as it is politically good for you. Stay out of crisis management. Say that the money is not there and have"
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