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    "id": 1060043,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Tharaka, DP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. George Gitonga",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "George Gitonga Murugara",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I sat in that Committee and we had weighty deliberations. In fact, we took an entire day trying to isolate issues which came out of the public participation. I can inform this House that public participation is not just cosmetic, that we go sit in a room, listen to people and brush aside whatever they say. According to the courts, if we try that, we will not go far. This is because it will be annulled and whatever we do will be declared null and void. The position is that we have come up with several issues that require in-depth legal interpretation and legal research that must be done by our legal team. It is true and we must confess - even if Hon. John Aluoch has said we never talked about experts - we actually talked of them and made an allusion that there are some areas we may need to hear from experts. I am a lawyer and not an expert in everything. There are areas that I or the Committee may require help. This is the reason we made an allusion of experts. The truth is that various weighty issues have come up. One of them is by the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC). Another one is by a public participant who informed us in broad day light that we may not need to go to a referendum. This is because looking at Article 255(1) of the Constitution, most of the issues therein may not be in this Bill. Therefore, we need to look into this. I have to give my opinion. When we come to this House, we will bring all these issues in the form of a report that this House will…"
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