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    "id": 1061048,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Homa Bay Town, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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        "legal_name": "George Peter Opondo Kaluma",
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    "content": "Hon. Speaker, I request that we apologize to the Members, but those matters cannot be dealt with virtually. You made a ruling here that it is for each Committee to determine the issues for which a Committee needs a Cabinet Secretary and those that can be delegated. Hon. Speaker, you will confirm that for the last three years, we have never required the Cabinet Secretary to appear before us unless it is very necessary. The one time he came, I remember, he was lecturing the nation through the Committee about court orders. I was not there. I have been in the Committee, but I have never seen him. The Principal Secretary has never been before the Committee. We do that because they say they are busy. If they give an answer, that is well and good. They have been giving us general answers and in helping Members and the nation, for whom we ask the Questions, we say that we need engagement with the Cabinet Secretary and the Principal Secretary in a manner that can give us answers that can be implemented and that, the same can be followed up and enforced."
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