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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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    "content": "It is not a Kenyan. That is a foreigner who does not understand that the protection of the Mau Forest has led to a water phenomenon in Baringo and Nakuru. It is the protection of that water tower. That is why the judge in Civil Case No. 252 did us a favour. The favour in this respect is that we get a Bill into this Senate with how conditional grants are done, when they are done, how they are sent to counties and how we oversight. The Committee was led by Sen. (Dr.) Ochillo-Ayacko, a gentleman I have admired for a long time. I appeared before him in the year 2000 as a young man He really harassed my late father when he was the Chairperson of the Public Investments Committee (PAC). We have never had a better Chairperson. A person who has history of audit. Therefore, these conditional grants are something that should worry us as Senators. Whether this Senate or the next one. In 2012, the World Bank did a report on conditional grants before the advent of devolution. They said that one of the biggest threats to the functions under the Fourth Schedule is conditional grants; that the Government will claw back on these functions by engaging in conditional grants without the input of counties. That is solved by the ruling of the court in Petition No. 252 of 2016. I could not have been happier as a Senator in this House to have a footing on the Division of Revenue and Advisory II of 2013 and now an extra footing on conditional grants through Petition No. 252 of 2016 and an additional footing in legislation under Petition No.284 of 2019. It is good to be a Senator of this Republic. I support the amendments. I hope all Senators will see our reason in finding a Bill that would ensure that there is equity in conditional grants. I support. Thank you."
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