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    "id": 1064546,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr.) James Nyikal",
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    "content": "the counties need except that we use the formula that we know of not less than 15 per cent. That is where the problem is because if we had known, then we would react appropriately. The only information we have is conditional grants. We know what those grants are going to do in the counties. They are the ones we discuss. In my view, the Inter-governmental Budget and Economic Council (IBEC) where there is an interaction between the national and county government in terms of needs, should work so that we get some information at the BPS time on what the needs of the counties are, so that as we use the 15 per cent formula, we also put into consideration the needs of the counties. I have said this many times. I know the Chair of the Budget and Appropriations Committee did not hear what I said, but I will actually follow up and explain to them. I support this but there is a structural issue that we need to look into. Otherwise, we will always have this at the time of Division of Revenue Bill."
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