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    "speaker_name": "Rangwe, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr.) Lilian Gogo",
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    "content": "right now. So, we really need to interrogate this matter with a lot of humility. We do not need populist ideas in looking at what is in this Bill. The persons who have spoken before me have elucidated the constitutionality of this Bill. So, there is nothing that is not constitutional about this Bill. It is anchored in our current Constitution. We are making amendments to the Constitution with the clear mind that we are moving from a certain point, as a country, to a better point. It is said that if we do not embrace change, change will change us. We are speaking on this matter as Members of this august House to embrace change for posterity – change that is going to make Kenya a better place to live in. We are amending certain Articles in our Constitution for the betterment of our country. I know I am on record in this country. Even before Hon. Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta, who is the President of the Republic of Kenya, and my party leader Raila Amollo Odinga, shook hands I was on Nation TV pleading with the two “generals” that they should speak to each other, meet at some point and put Kenya together in peace. That is what happened later on. I did not know it was actually going to happen. It is an appeal that I made to our two very eminent Kenyans, and they listened and talked to each other. They put their partisan interests aside and put the interest of this nation ahead of everything. So, I thank Hon. Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta and Hon. Raila Amollo Odinga, who has been on the forefront of bringing change in this country, for putting their issues and interests aside and listening to Kenyans. Suppose when Raila Amollo Odinga was being sworn-in as the People’s President of this country, Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta decided to go and clear everybody in the interest of the law? What would have happened to this country? However, he took a back stand. I want to appreciate His Excellency the President of the Republic of Kenya and the people who advised him at that particular critical moment, to take a back stand and put this country in order. We are not talking about anything populistic at this particular moment of our nation. We are interrogating matters that are going to bring peace in Kenya. It is give and take. We may not get everything in this particular discussion. There are people who may have lost and others may have gained but what benefits Kenya most is what is of interest to us. I want to look at the various places that I think I have been educated on. On behalf of the great people of Rangwe Constituency, if I talk about these matters, I think it is going to benefit the progression of this particular Bill so that when we take it to the people through the referendum, and since it is a people’s Bill, they are going to vote yes or no. The role we are doing as Parliament is to let it pass through us and then we give our ideas on it, not necessarily to change it because this Bill has been looked into."
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