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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonza Jnr.",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I must confess that I threw the spanner in the works in the Senate Business Committee about this Motion. From my past experience as the Senate Minority Whip, the onerous duty of picking five Committee Members from my side and six Committee Members from the other side has always put us into cross hairs with our Members. That is because we always appear to have decided on the court that is going to decide on the case. If the Plenary decides on the Committee, both sides will sit and pick the names as opposed to the Senate Majority Whip and the Senate Minority Whip sitting in a corner and making that decision. That will help remove the idea that it is one person making the decision. We have heard impeachment cases in plenary. I sat here during the last impeachment and I saw heaps of papers. I can bet that most Members did not even open one file. There were many files here and one could not even remember the file that they had read. At the end of the impeachment, the desk outside had six to 10 files that had not been collected. Those were bundles that had not been read by anybody. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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