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    "id": 1072137,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr.) James Nyikal",
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    "content": "at the public sector as one that can easily be hoodwinked, where you can make huge profits, and where you really do not have to provide services as required. That is an unhealthy relationship. There has also been an assumption in the private sector that the public sector is incompetent although in reality if you go into the public sector you get the most qualified people. I think the problem there is basically the bureaucracy which I think this Bill will probably address. In fact, the recent performance of public schools during the COVID-19 period actually begs the question. We have to analyze and say 'how did that happen?' What does the private sector do which they cannot do in periods of hardship? The other issue you have to look at is that corruption is really key in all these relationships. For a long time, we have assumed that corruption is a problem or is based in the public sector. The truth is different. The private sector promotes corruption in a very huge way. There is the story of a prostitute who asked a priest a question that 'who sins more, the one who gives money to sin or the one who takes money to sin?' I think that is the relationship we should think about when we are talking about the issue of corruption in relation to the private and public sector. In any case, it takes two to tango. Therefore, those are areas you should look at. We have not put enough emphasis on trying to address corruption in the private sector as it affects the public sector but, the private sector is a key driver of our development and economy so we cannot wish it away. The public sector provides the framework for the economy and growth of the country. So, both are complementary. A law that provides a healthy relationship between the two particularly in provision of services and infrastructure is necessary and essential. Therefore, I support this Bill because I know it will improve the current law. It provides for a regulatory process of engagement and comprehensive framework for the implementation of PPPs. Also, it addresses gaps in the existing laws. To that extent, this Bill if passed as a law will go a long way in improving our situation. It also provides for methods of procurement that promote speedy implementation of projects. I know from my own past experience how the procurement processes can delay, derail and sometimes kill projects. To this end, I support this Bill because it establishes a PPP Committee that will look into the details, provide structures, manpower and process. Together with this, it also establishes a directorate together with a director. Part 4 looks at the process of identification of projects which again is a big thing if the private sector gets to identify projects. Sometimes because of the push to get business you can get into a situation where the private sector identifies projects for the public sector. This will provide a process of doing this so there is mutual benefit. Part 5 gives detailed process of procurement as I have indicated which is extremely important. Part 6 provides for a process of involvement of the county governments. All the PPPs we have done, two have worked well but they have not involved the county governments and yet if this country is to move ahead fast then, any process we bring into place must play out at the county level. Therefore, this Bill provides how the agreements will be signed by the counties and the role of the county assemblies in approving such agreements. Part 8 provides for a funding process which is extremely important. We know of projects that have died where the funding process kills the project or if it works it becomes so expensive that eventually it does not serve the purpose. By establishing these PPP facilitation funds, I think this goes a long way. I must put a question as I end, that we need to look at this Bill carefully and scrutinise it well to ensure the services provided by these processes are not too expensive and out The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor"
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