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"content": "or a requirement or undertaking relating to the programme. Therefore, a number of these instances, which have been quoted by hon. Members, should lead to the revocation of protection. There is no need to provide a specific amendment for it in the Act. It will be provided for in the MoU, which will be entered into between the protected person and the Agency. It will further be provided for under the regulations which the Minister will put in place. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, an issue was raised about joyriders and people like those. Again, the same will apply. By the way, it is a very rigorous system; for you to actually make it and become a protected person. That system will get rid of joyriders. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I welcome the contribution by hon. Mbadi on these issues, particularly on the issue of the tribunal. I think I have answered hon. Baiya and underlined that the Government is, indeed, very serious in putting this Witness Protection Programme in place. It is because of that seriousness that weaknesses have been identified and the Government has quickly come to Parliament to correct those weaknesses. Hon. Chanzu did raise some good points here, but he should be more specific. If he can come up with more specific recommendations for the Committee Stage, I will be pleased to look at them, particularly with regard to the appointment of the two members of the tribunal. He said we should be more specific, but I think we are specific enough. But if he can be more specific and come up with proposals, then I will look at them very favorably. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, hon. Kabando wa Kabando made a very important point here relating to the offence which is provided for under paragraph 30 (c) at page 28. It is, indeed, very true that I do not expect the ordinary Kenyan to be instrumental in carrying out threats of such a nature that a witness feels threatened enough not to give evidence. Mistakes are most likely, going to come from those who are able to; they will be able to because of the financial position or capacity that they will have â most of it ill-gotten. Therefore, it is inherent in them and is part of their culture to provide threats, intimidation or even threats of death, so that they are not found out. Consequently, for such persons the fine of Kshs500,000 appears to me to be on the lower side; I will be bringing amendments to increase that fine to Kshs1 million. Not only that, I will be bringing further amendments to say that if the same person is found to have threatened on subsequent occasions, the option of fine will not be there. It will only be a custodial sentence. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, my learned colleague, hon. Githae, I think, has been heard; I hope that the investigative agencies have heard him. I hope the tax authorities have heard him, so that they can take into account when they operate, what he has told us this afternoon in this august Assembly. Since this is a Witness Protection Programme, I cannot bring in amendments to what you have said. If we were discussing an amendment to the Anti-Corruption and Economic Crimes Act, then I think some of the suggestions you made would be extremely, extremely useful and I hope that they will be on board. When you have ascertained them as amendments in the Bill, those are the type of things that we are going to consider; I thought they were extremely useful. With those few remarks, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, once again, let me thank all who contributed to this debate. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move."
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