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    "id": 1075754,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1075754/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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        "legal_name": "Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": "Sen. Olekina asked me why we cannot have two treasuries where the amounts go directly to them. Under Chapter Twelve and in terms of amendments to the Constitution, we do not require a referendum to amend so that clerks of the county assemblies can have some element of autonomy. Members of County Assemblies (MCAs) are suffering. I have seen it in Makueni. The Governor may decide that they are not going to have allowances and says so publicly. He tells them there is no money and ask why they need allowances yet it is part of the budget. Members of the executive receive their allowances but MCAs do not. Nominated MCAs are being mistreated left, right and centre for reasons I do not know. I hope we can truly achieve the independence because it will be a tragedy to give counties 35 per cent of their recently audited accounts. With weak county assemblies like the ones we have now, you will never see more heist when counties start receiving that sort of money passed by this Senate through the National Treasury. I support, but eventually we must find a way of dealing with the National Treasury. It should not operate as if it is part and parcel of the Cabinet. The Cabinet Secretaries operate as if they are the fourth arm of Government. They operate on their own and do what they feel like when they feel like and do not answer to anybody. It is a mistake and something we must resolve."
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