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    "id": 1082685,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1082685/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Ndhiwa, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Martin Owino",
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        "legal_name": "Martin Peters Owino",
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    "content": "without staff. Not only are staff physically present, but those staff must be capacitated and they must build their capacities. That is why we are having questions of scanners not working. If there is no proper supervisory role, even those who are working with those scanners can jam them for their own good. It is not news that some people would like to thrive in confusion, if there is no proper supervision. So, the human resource issue is key. I agree with the Committee that, that should be looked into. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, the issue of high cost of doing business should be taken further, even to the EAC, so that we can have some harmonised taxation. If we tax people much - and I said it here - it is like milking a cow to the vein. You will be kicked and you will not get any milk. Even international businesspeople will shy away. Now you have had our machinery being shifted elsewhere. What is it that Uganda is doing that we cannot do? We are talking of an institution which is over 32 years old. So, lowering taxes or harmonising taxes is key for all of us as a community. That discussion should be held even with the East African Community. The other point which they brought - and which will not help us much - is the porous borders. Porous borders facilitate small bits of trading here and there. There is nothing you can do about them. Even former President Donald Trump tried to build a wall. You cannot do anything much. Where we have porosity is at the real formal border points, where those trucks go and are inspected well. There is not enough human resource to do the work. That is where we have the porosity. For other places, we will not care much. If we can concentrate on Malaba, Namanga, Busia, Mombasa and Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA) in terms of equipping and managing them well, we can increase our revenue collection. There is also another point here which they brought in. In my thinking, if we want KRA to collect more money, we have to invest in KRA. I have only a few minutes. Why can you not…"
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