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"speaker_name": "Nairobi CWR, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. (Ms.) Esther Passaris",
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"content": "As much as we support this Bill because it is good, we also have to realise that one of the biggest problems that we have in this county is corruption. When you mix people together, it is very difficult to have corrupt tendencies. Inclusion will help us deal with corruption. It will also help us deal with the respect of other communities. When we used to have Kikuyu night, Kamba night and Maasai night, we saw that there was so much to celebrate in other communities. If we agree to work together even in our places of work in the various counties, then we will respect each other’s communities and food. I believe that this Bill is very good. We extend the issue of education. We said that we would give it more time in 2017. I really support what Dr. Pamela Odhiambo has said; that we have very many Kenyans who have gone to university and have degrees but are tarmacking. Let us ensure that if one wants to be a leader, one has to go for a degree. If we say that the chairman requires a degree, the member of county assembly should also have a degree and so should the MP. It is not very difficult to get a degree. If a leader does not follow the law, which we said we were going to extend to year 2022 and we now want further extensions... For me, education guides the leader. It expands one’s mind and knowledge so that one can serve people better. I believe that if we are going to require chairmen to have a degree, then the MCA also should have a degree. There is no way we can say that we are not going to find MCAs with degrees. We will find leaders with degrees applying for those vacancies. Those who do not have a degree and want to be leaders, go get a degree. That is important. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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