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    "speaker_name": "Ugenya, MDG",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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        "legal_name": "David Ouma Ochieng'",
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    "content": "required the secretary to have these qualifications because this is the person who sits in that board on a daily basis. He is the CEO of that board. I would have required the person to have better qualifications in that area than the chairperson. However, what are they doing? They are even removing the basic qualifications that existed before of the secretary of the board. The person who sits there every day does not require a degree. They have removed it. How will you function? You are going to pick anyone from the village to be secretary of the board. Is that what we are talking about? Is that what the Senate wants? Like has been said, this Bill should not go beyond here until the Senate, in my opinion, comes up with a proper Bill that streamlines the workings of the county public service boards holistically. I have a problem with the statement that you appoint a professional, there is no interference. Who says so? That if you appoint a human resource professional as the chair of this board, the governor will not interfere. Where is the barrier? What must the governor do to interfere even if he is a professional? I have a problem with that kind of thinking because I believe that the governor has a role. This idea that the governor should not have a role in who becomes what in the county's public service for me is wrong. We should drop this pretence. If you are the head of the county and people are being employed in your county, you must have interest. This idea that, oh, the governor should not interfere, the governor should not say this and that, I think is a lot of pretence for nothing. If I am a governor, I would want to know who is going to become the minister and who is going to become the chief officer. I must be involved. I hear Members say that they should be independent. We cannot have a county public service board independent from the office of the governor. I will support that in my opinion. Let us agree and accept the fact that as a county executive, the head of the county has a role to play in this. This idea that he is independent and cannot interfere is not the way it works."
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