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    "id": 1091021,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Sakaja",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Johnson Arthur Sakaja",
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    "content": "One of the things I like, which I think we will consider, is the issue of personal culpability. I will give you the final example. I do not want to put blame on any individual who lost office during the first County Government of Nairobi. People would come and tell me that if you paid in Nairobi, it meant nothing. If they were supposed to pay, for example, Kshs20 million, what they would do those days was to give you a cheque of 10 per cent and you had to go to Co-operative Bank Mama Ngina. Hapo City Hall. Even if you had a cheque, if you had not been called to get the money, you would not get it. You had to go and get the money in cash, take it to some two guys who I will not mention because they are undergoing criminal proceedings. Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. knows one of them because he is from his county. You had to give them 10 per cent before you got 80 per cent. What was that? There is a friend of mine we were with in school. He is the grandson of Wamachui, very famous in Nairobi. They went through a lot of trouble. I hope we will not do that. Let us have the culprits. Madam Temporary Speaker, I thank everybody. I beg to reply. Additionally, given that I have replied, pursuant to Standing Order No.61(3), I request that the putting of the question be deferred to a later date for obvious reasons. I thank you."
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