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    "id": 1091343,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Deputy Speaker",
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    "content": "Hon. T.J. Kajwang’ please, take your seat. As I have said, you are a seasoned legislator. On the first bit of Members having to seek permission from the Speaker to leave the country, the only reason they need to seek that kind of clearance is for purpose of attendance so that you do not miss out on the days. If it is proved that these Members did not get the Speaker’s approval, the only thing that is against them is missing the sittings, which has two dimensions. The most important one is the constitutional issue of missing eight consecutive sittings in a session. Otherwise, on giving out permission to Members to travel, they are free. We are an independent arm of the Government. Hon. T.J. Kajwang’, as you have put it rightly, this is an extremely weighty issue. Those are issues you should canvass formally. It is a matter for which you can be given time. You need to do very well in such circumstances. When you raise the matter through a point of order, you may not have sufficient time to prosecute it well. I am not in any way trivialising what you have raised, but it has not come in the right manner. In any case, you have been heard. For the Members, I think that has been sorted out. Members would have no issue to ask for permission from the Speaker, especially when they have private trips. As for official trips, the Speaker is ordinarily the one who gives permission for such trips to materialise and is, therefore, deemed to have given Members permission to travel abroad. Unless you have another issue, let us proceed."
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