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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Cheruiyot",
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        "legal_name": "Aaron Kipkirui Cheruiyot",
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    "content": "for somebody who pours raw sewer into a river like Nairobi River is Kshs500,000 or a maximum of six months on jail. They are not even afraid. They tell the National Environment Management Authority (NEMA) to please issue the notice because they know what the law says. At the end of the days, they are fine with it because of some of these legislations that we make. I really want to convince Sen. (Dr.) Zani that we need to raise the amount of the fine of a bit. When you consider the communities that you want to protect, some of the games that these corporations play, and the attitude where some people think that it is okay to exploit people, then Kshs2 million is too lenient a fine. Think of a higher figure, like Kshs20 million, something that someone will feel the pain and that it is wrong to exploit local communities. Do not look at giving misleading information as a simple act of lying. It is actually the difference between how much a community makes vis-a-vis what they will lose. If you are doing x amount of shillings out of a particular project that you have set up in a community, then you file separate figures to Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) and under declare by 10-20per cent, the amount that it comes to in figures is quite a huge amount. I propose that when we do the Committee of the Whole, let us try and raise this fine. Let it be a higher amount so that that it deters anybody that would imagine that they can just fill papers, bribe their way through one or two Government officials, and get away with it when this exercise commences in our local communities. That should not be the case. People must learn. Let it be known. Mr. Speaker, Sir, even the imprisonment, three years, is such a short time. Some people will say, what is three years? They can persevere the three years and make their millions. In any case, their businesses will be running. Let the punishment be punitive so that people know that we must respect our local communities. Otherwise, I appreciate the opportunity to contribute. I congratulate Sen. (Dr.) Zani. I hope that we conclude on this Bill as soon as we can so that our local communities can draw benefit from the natural resources that are around them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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