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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Speaker",
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    "content": "Hon. Members, I just want to hear your views. As I was seated here, I received a proposed amendment by Hon. Duale. I have not approved it because I do not approve amendments from here. A few things come to light. What is the value of the Second Reading? It is debate and views are expressed regarding any of the clauses in a Bill. I implore Committees to also take this seriously because I have seen chairpersons of committees come, move their Bills and walk away. So, you wonder who is now following the debate. The next thing they do is to come with amendments. From where? They say that they have interacted with villagers during public participation. What about the very serious ideas that have come from Members here? Are they of no value? In that case, we should do away with the Second Reading, so that a Bill comes, the First Reading is done, it is referred to the Committee which goes and takes views from stakeholders and other members of the public and after that, it comes to the Committee of the whole House. I know there are several Members who actually research or have very serious input to the Bills. To be fair, this is an important fact that we must take into consideration. In yesterday’s Order Paper, the National Hospital Insurance Fund (Amendment) Bill was listed for continuation of debate in the Second Reading. For all intents and purposes, debate was to continue. If there were sufficient Members to oppose the issue raised under Standing Order No. 95 by Hon. Pukose and demand, through a vote, that debate continues, it means that you would be doing so even now. That is the long and short of it. Nevertheless, Hon. Pukose rose in his place and those who were present and had perhaps contributed were of the view that debate should be closed and that the Mover be called upon to reply. I want to know from the Committee whether you have looked at the Hansard today to see the Members’ contributions because, to be honest, very many Members have contributed to this Bill. On the first day, I remember asking for the records and there were a total of 24 Members. It has been debated for about three days. I do not know. The Departmental Committee on Health did not sleep throughout the night. They were looking through the Hansard to see what Members said. What Members say here should also inform what proposals the Committee comes up with. So many Members contributed. Those are views that also need to be taken into account. Committees, The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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