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    "id": 1097669,
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    "speaker_name": "Kikuyu, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah",
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        "legal_name": "Anthony Kimani Ichung'Wah",
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    "content": "previously guided and in line with our Standing Orders, a Committee can only meet with your permission while the House is sitting. Hon. Speaker, I want to raise this issue because I am aware that the Departmental Committee on Administration and National Security is currently holding a meeting. You have made many considered rulings before. In particular, I remember the one you made on 10th June 2014 on the issue of the recall of Cabinet Secretaries (CSs) and how Committees of this House should go about the procedure of recalling or impeaching a CS. In that ruling, there was a point where you said that you do not countenance committees of this House going on a fishing expedition. In many other determinations, you have ruled that our committees should not be on fishing expeditions. That the businesses of committees and the House should not dwell on matters that we pick from the newspapers and electronic media. I want to state this with all due respect because I have noticed that that has been happening in the last few weeks. In one instance, about a week ago, the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning was interrogating an issue that in my recollection, and you know that I am very diligent in attending sessions of this House, had never in any way been referred to the Committee. I doubt whether the matter was in any way within the mandate of that Committee. It was inquiring how a private bank, Equity Bank, was able to advance money to a Ugandan. It was not even Equity Bank Kenya but Equity Bank Uganda. It was a matter that was canvassed before broadcast media and I found it wanting that we are now getting tempted to use committees of the House to advance our party politics. I am raising this issue because today, the second instance, the Committee chaired by Hon. Mwathi... I did see him speak to the media. At the risk of alluding to things that are in the media, I heard him say that they will be sitting today to have a meeting with the CS for the Ministry of Interior and Coordination of National Government on the question of the withdrawal and scaling down of the security of the Deputy President. Hon. Speaker, my recollection, again, is that this House was on recess. There was no Question, no Petition or Statement sought. When I listened to the Chair, in the electronic media, asserting that the Deputy President’s people raised these questions and therefore the Committee is looking into that matter, I was surprised. I do not know who those people are because all Kenyans are Deputy President’s people."
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