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    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud)",
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        "legal_name": "Mohammed Maalim Mahamud",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am a Member of the Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations. It will be unfair if I do not say something here. On the prompting by the Senator of Laikipia last week, a Statement was brought here. Based on what he brought before the Senate, you referred the matter to us. On Monday, we went there to deal with the matter he raised. We went to the areas he mentioned in this Statement. Our colleague is raising another matter. We will deal with this again because we went there specifically on the matters raised by Sen. Kinyua. In fact, we found many things happening in that place. This is also a very serious matter. It is the other side of it because it was the farmers on that side, and now it is the pastoralists on this side. Let us be objective and not condemn the Committee. Much as maybe Committees in this House are not working as people are saying, for this matter, we were there and did a good job and a report is coming. Now, I see the Committee is being disbanded by the Chair, where I am being removed. I will come to that later, but I think we did a good job. Whatever we did should not be contradictory to what we are doing now. When I heard this, I saw the other side of it. Initially, pastoralists from Baringo were being accused of stealing animals and killing farmers. On the other side, pastoralists are being fought by farmers and evicted from their land. As a House, we need to balance without taking sides. It is not an issue of one community against another. The Committee should also not be unduly condemned. It would be unfair if I sit here and watch because my good friends, Sen. Wetangula and Sen. Outa, are not here. I have been in many Committees, including this one. I think the changes we are trying to make in the Committee will make it worse anyway. For now, I think we are okay."
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