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    "content": "Mr. Robert Shaw had this to say about belief. “Sometimes when we believe in something we suddenly tend to argue about what we believe in to an extent that we become blinded completely of any other argument against it.” When we argue on whether we should amend this Constitution and our arguments are based on the party I come from or whoever believes, then we are not making any rational decision for this country. We must be able to interrogate every amendment and know whether it is viable for this country. If we cannot agree, by the end of the day, the document we have is good for this country. It is 100 times better than the Constitution we have. Therefore, we should not panic. Secondly, we are not the only organ of review. If we cannot amend anything in this House, then we give it to the people of Kenya to make their decision through a referendum. Kenyans will take charge of this Constitution making process. So, there is no panic about this. It is not about life and death. The first Chapter of this Constitution is about sovereignty. It is about the supremacy of the country and defence of the Constitution. In the defence of this Constitution, we are talking of respecting, upholding and defending. You cannot respect something you do not believe in. You cannot uphold what you do not believe in. You cannot defend what you do not believe in. Let us not divide Kenyans. We start to talk of regions and you start telling us your way of understanding the regions. Yes, South Africa has regions. In America, there is federal system of Government. But where are the South Africans coming from and where are Kenyans coming from? Have we debated majimbo in Kenya for a long time? How do Kenyans view majimbo? How do they interpret majimbo? Those are questions we must answer. If we decide that we want to go regional, then we look at the history because history repeats itself because men do not want to learn from it. We must ask ourselves whether this is a divisive issue or an issue that unites this country. We must be able to address those fears. My submission is that we can amend this Constitution although Article 255 is very clear that there are some of these things that you cannot just tamper with. You cannot just amend them without two-thirds majority in this House. But we have to ask ourselves: Do we want to declare a"
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