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"content": "providing the framework through which that can be created, because we will need to resource disaster risk management. In Tana River County, for example, and the Senator is here, there are many disasters along Tana River, but they may not have the resources, as a county, to necessarily deal with it every year, otherwise, it will overshoot their budget at the county level. However, if you have this fund where there is sharing between the national Government and county governments--- Also, even well-wishers who want to support, instead of asking everyone to bring their fire engines and what not, they can support that disaster management fund. There can be hotlines where we have call centres, where our young people can volunteer and be picking up those calls. This is so that when there is anything that happens in any part of the City or country, then there is quick response from this management authority. Madam Temporary Speaker, there are also penalties of offences under this Bill. One of the entities that we said we are putting here is the department of special programmes. I do not know if you have had to deal with them. Many times when we have these issues in Nairobi, I have asked. You write a letter and they used to be very cooperative. I do not know what has happened to them nowadays. You would write a letter and ask them for some flour, maize, rice and sometimes some building materials. If you are lucky or they like you, maybe, they would give you some of these supplies. If they do not, they would take you round in circles and end up doing nothing. Madam Temporary Speaker, it cannot be that subjective that any elected leader or it depends on which side you are as an elected leader to go. Many people have come to ask me please help me to get these supplies for my county. I feel very bad that why I am able to go there yet Sen. Nyamunga or another Senator, you are not able to. It must not be subjective. It must be very objective. In the case of a disaster, these are the kinds of responses we require, this is how much we are able to give and this is the formula we use. Recently, I had fire in Kamkunji. Again, I thank Principal Secretary (PS) Hon. Kibicho and Cabinet Secretary (CS) Hon. (Dr.) Matiang’i because immediately I got in touch with them, they were able to tell me this is what we can do. I got Hon. Yusuf who is one of the most cooperative leaders in Nairobi and quickly, I sent him there with resources. We gave the people something. We told them pole and built houses for them. Madam Temporary Speaker, as much as it works, it is not sustainable. That is why we have the rule of law more than the rule of man. This is so that today if you do not like Sen. Orengo and there is a disaster in Siaya County. You just tell him do not worry, tell the County Commissioner to write to us. However, if you like Sen. Wario, then you help him. It cannot be like that. I think that discretion is wrong. Also, it has led to a lot of corruption. When there is a lack of a proper system of accountability and who deals with these disasters, we find sometimes chiefs in some areas. They have been given maize, beans or supplies and those supplies disappear. You find someone has been told to go but nails for traders to build and they go and collude with the hardware owners. That has been happening and I have seen it. I am not saying anywhere or pointing names but if they are listening they know themselves."
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