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    "id": 1101532,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri)",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Samson Kegeo Ongeri",
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    "content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, one of the issues that we witnessed in 2007 that brought some difficulties was the level of violence that was escalated at that time and the issue of the humanitarian crisis, which we are now beginning to see as a result of political differences or issues that required to be fixed. That was the basis upon which we had the agenda by Koffi Annan to stop the violence, fix the humanitarian crisis, find political settlements and fix long-term issues. I still think that these issues stand fresh today. Members of the Senate and the Kenyan community need to sit down and discuss them more soberly. You will notice that one of the things that have taken place is the issue of Kisii ndogo, where we had a number of Kisii people massacred. I hope that this is not as a result of one of us being the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and Coordination of National Government. Let us be plain and clear: CS Matiang’i can only discharge a collective responsibility of the Cabinet. He cannot be condemned when he carries out the mandate of the Cabinet. It will be wrong to attack him on the Floor of this House at this stage. It does not look right. We should be looking at how to strengthen the communities in that region to be safe or the surveillance system to bring order and security in that area. How do we galvanize the warring factions to sit down on the table and discuss soberly and arrive at permanent and lasting solutions? How do we get the Kenyan communities to feel safe, so that they do not start running away from the place they have settled? That is the issue we should be canvassing before the Senate. I sympathize with the loss of lives. The Government is trying its best. I am not on the Government side, but they are trying their best. One of the things that I have noted is that they have been honest enough to say that some of the bandits have some superior weapons that they do not know where they came from. That is what we should be investigating. Where did they come from? What has happened in that region that we cannot hold the security systems into place and stop the menace that is going on? My suggestion at this stage is that let us approach this matter soberly. Let us not try to play the blame game on the CS for Interior and Coordination of National Government, the IG or the Regional Commissioner Natembeya. Let us not go that wrong direction. Let us look for a lasting solution and examine the Statement that has been brought by Sen. Kinyua, so that we can understand the genesis of this problem, get to the root and address the matter that is before the Senate today. I plead for sobriety. One of the things that we need to look at is whether the boundaries have been clearly demarcated. This is a constitutional matter. It is both a responsibility of the Cabinet and the Legislature to ensure that people are happy with the boundaries that exist and that they can live with them rather than, at every moment, where they escalate the unfortunate situation. We should also look at the question of land reforms. This has been on the table for many years. One of the major problems that have created this difficulty is the issue of"
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