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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Orengo",
    "speaker_title": "The Senate Minority Leader",
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
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    "content": "I have heard a lot of what people have said. For example, the Senator for Nandi talked about the price of fuel in other jurisdictions. That is very important material that we should put before the House when we have a debate on this matter. People have noticed. We should have some material that we place before the House during that debate, instead of just having a general debate. I think that we need to put some material before the House on the two issues. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the work of the Committee will go on. The Committee is still seized of the matter. However, there are two things that have arisen. One is the contempt by the Cabinet Secretaries (CSs) on which we need a resolution. In order to get there, we must have some material on what happened before. Secondly is the question of what the country is feeling now. Sen. Sakaja toured Nairobi and it was a lavish issue wherever he went. When we debate this matter, it is not just for any Member to stand up for two minutes and say that people are suffering. If you go out there, people will tell you that they are suffering. However, we need to put some material as we debate so that when we make a resolution, there will be some record that we had justification in bringing this Motion forward. I plead with the House, particularly Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. In this one, there is no question of cowardice. We will see cowards when we are voting, not when we are proposing the Motion. That will come another time. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I can assure you that on my part, I will turn up to move the Motion when it is called tomorrow. I am assured that it is will be there tomorrow. In order to make sure that we have no doubt about this matter, if you can all, I think there should be a House Business Committee (HBC) meeting, so that the Motion will be indeed the first business tomorrow. No Member of Parliament (MP) should be told that they are going to speak for two minutes. Everybody should speak on this matter for a minimum of 10 minutes. If I start now, I intend to take one and half hours because I have material, especially on this issue of contempt by the CSs. We want to demonstrate what happens in other parliaments when CSs do not appear before parliament and for it to be put on record. The other example I want to give is that when some CSs refused to appear before a judge, the judge said that he could not order policemen to arrest them, but had one tool, which he used. The CSs had to obey because they knew the consequences. Tomorrow, we will also talk about what tools we have. If we talk now, it will just be a baraza. We do not want to be a baraza. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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