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    "id": 1103740,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Orengo",
    "speaker_title": "The Senate Minority Leader",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
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    "content": " Madam Temporary Speaker, I speak to this only because on Tuesday, when the matter came before the Chamber, I was here and there were separate Motions for committees and the panel. The Motion regarding the panel went through. That is why Sen. Kinyua was sitting on the Chair yesterday. I assure you that had we moved with the Motion in respect of other committees, including the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations, it would have been shot down. I could see the sense of difficulty. It is not that Senators were malicious. There were some legitimate concerns that were raised. For example, when we had a kamukunji out here, Sen. Halake raised some legitimate questions which we cannot ignore. We were supposed to consult and have a kamukunji this week, but it is not possible. If the Senate Majority Leader and I are given time until Tuesday afternoon, the job will be done. There is a difference between this House and the other one. In the National Assembly the Leadership determines where you go. I prefer the system in the Senate because the House approves. So, however much the Leadership works on this Committees and the membership of the House does not approve, it amounts to nothing. I plead with Sen. Kajwang’, who I know the pain he is undergoing. In fact, I talked at length about the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations. I said it does not have sufficient Members. Let us have the spirit of constituting these Committees as Committees of the House, but not to look for individual or sectarian interests. When that happens, it becomes very difficult when constituting them."
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