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    "id": 1105427,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kangema, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Clement Kigano",
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        "legal_name": "Clement Muturi Kigano",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. A few matters emerge from the Statement by the Departmental Committee on Administration and National Security. I would straight away say that we will interact with the Attorney-General urgently. I want to remind the House that the Attorney-General is just a conduit. The funding for compensation goes to the principal ministries, in this case the Office of the President. He would not be able to disburse the funds, unless the funds are passed specifically per case to him. He does not let the funds stay with him as soon they are brought to him. They are disbursed immediately. What could happen, and I have had experience in this matter of compensation as a lawyer, is that there is some favouritism in the Office of the President. You get some cases skipping others. So, the Attorney-General has no say on these matters. However, we will deal with the matter. We will interact with the Attorney- General and remind him of the concerns raised by the House. The second matter I would like to address is the one which was mentioned about IPOA. I think the cure to this issue of IPOA looking as a white elephant is this: some of the prosecutorial jurisdiction should be given to bodies such as IPOA, to prosecute matters that are specifically arising from police misconduct. This will need legislation. My committee will look into it. What I found a bit fallacious is when my colleague, in his statement, spoke about the police all the time acting within the law. I found that a bit atrocious, particularly when I watched in the media a case which has been going on for about two days. It is about two children who died in Nakuru. The police have already issued a statement that the children were poisoned by their father yet they have no evidence to this effect. Any stranger would come and do that and leave medicine around! Some of these matters are pre-empted by the police. The evidence that is emerging is that the doctor himself loved his children and he was not the kind of fellow to execute such a horrendous act. He too has died. So, some of these misfortunes are as a result of misconduct. I am trying to research on the number of people who have been killed by the police in the last one year. It is a daily occurrence! So when that statement talks about the police acting within the law, it is absolutely laughable in Kenya. Look at what is happening in Kayole, Huruma and Dandora. Everyday there are demonstrations against police officers. It is because of people being killed by police. Every time the police deny being involved in those killings. I think we need to re- look this law. The Departmental Committee on Administration and National Security and my committee should, perhaps, join forces to see what legislation we need to give IPOA jurisdiction to prosecute matters concerning police. Remember, bodies like the NSSF used to have prosecutorial powers. Up to date, the Department of Migration has some nature of prosecutorial jurisdiction. So, we will deal with this issue. You raised the matter of WAQF. I will not come to it now. I had already requested the Leader of the Majority Party to stand it down because my committee has not come up with its report. We need to interact with the public trustee on this matter. If you give us two weeks, we will be able to call the public trustee. We remembered late that the public trustee is a principal stakeholder in matters concerning WAQF Commissioners. Thank you."
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