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    "id": 110598,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Shakeel",
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        "legal_name": "Ahmed Shakeel Shabbir Ahmed",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this draft has been recommended by the Law Society of Kenya, the International Commission on Jurists and many others who have seen what has happened. It is the best we have and it is what the people want. I have been listening to many Kenyans as you all do when you go back to your constituencies and the Wanjikus, Onyangos and Mutuas all want a new Constitution. They tell me: Could you give us our Constitution, please? It is as necessary to us to do this quickly. If you do not listen; you will not hear. If you do not hear the wananchi, you will hear them at the referendum. So, my best recommendation is that we pass this Draft Constitution as it is. It can be altered at a later stage. It is a good alternative. It is not the best, but it can be improved. On the issue of counties, what I would suggest here is that counties are best as they are set down and they will perform. We cannot afford to go along with 4,000 or 5,000 people in the various houses. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, with respect to abortion, I know that concern has been raised by the churches, Muslims and other groups. I understand there is what is called supremacy of law. The Constitution is supreme in this country but the law of God is supreme over any constitution. I would like Rev. Musyimi and others who have been arguing about abortion to hear what I am saying. Abortion is as old as time itself. So, trying to bring this issue into a constitution makes little sense at this moment in time. We, as Christians, Muslims or any faith, accept the supremacy of the law of God over the constitution. If you ask me to choose between the two, I will always chose the law of God over the law of the Constitution. I think that we must all bear that in mind when we are talking about abortion and other issues because the law of God is there and it states very clearly what the situation is. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we must not think about what we can get out of this constitution, whether some of us will become senators or governors. Mr. I. Ruto suggested yesterday that this House of hon. Members will not want to become councillors. I would not mind becoming even a councillor as long as this constitution is passed. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Kenyans are informed---"
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