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"speaker_name": "Mr. Bifwoli",
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"content": "Why were you born a Bukusu if you do not want to be circumcised? You go where you want. I hold this one with passion. Why should you legislate against the culture of the people? Surely, it is wrong. We cannot say that Kenya is a non-religious state. Culture is a religion to some of us. We believe in our religion. How can you legislate against my religion? For example, if today you say that I am not allowed to receive the Holy Communion, why should I then go to church if I am not going to receive the Holy Communion? Why am I a Bukusu if I am not circumcised? You can never be a Bukusu unless you are circumcised. We do not circumcise women. But if you are targeting women, you should have put it there that no woman will be circumcised and I would have supported you. But when you leave it blank like that, I will not support you. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, when you look at page 20, there is the Bill of Rights. This is terrible! I do not know how you will work on it. It says that every person has a right to life. That is the truth. Do you know when life begins? I went to the major seminary to train as a Catholic priest between 1961 and 1962. I left the seminary in 1975. I was told that before God put me in my motherâs womb, he knew me. He even knew my name and what I was going to be in this world. In other words, life started with God before he put me in my motherâs womb. Now, if that is what I believe in and some people are saying that life starts at conception, surely--- God knew me before my mother and dad met, yet you are telling me that life started when my mother and dad went to bed. I do not believe that because God told me that he knew me before I was born. It was my right to be born and not my motherâs decision to give birth to me. It was my right and that is why God put me in her womb. Her responsibility was to carry and bring me to this world, and not to terminate me at will. You must delete this. This idea of abortion is not there. Why should you have appetite if you are not ready to chew something that you can carry? Those who do not want to reproduce do not have sex. That is the truth. Why do you have it and at the same time say that you do not want to have a child? What were you looking for when you went to bed?"
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