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    "id": 1108728,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr.) Wilberforce Oundo",
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        "legal_name": "Wilberforce Ojiambo Oundo",
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    "content": "at the Second Reading, can we vote based on issues in the discussion at hand? Or are we basically a chorus House that votes Yes and No without due consideration of the contents and the debates in the House? We have had an argument here. Many times during the Second Reading when we debate Bills, do chairmen of the committees ever bother to listen to what Members are saying so that they can prepare the amendments for the Committee of the whole House? Do they ever consider those issues? We are being invited here to literally repeat the workings and operations of committees. At this particular point, I believe those of us who have issues with this Bill will be candid enough to persuade our colleagues that the provisions of this Bill are bad. Those for the Bill will also have their time to persuade us that what is in this Bill is good. It is time for Members of this House to rise to the occasion, debate soberly and view the issues at hand. When it comes to Second Reading, at the point of voting, let us vote for the people of Kenya. I would suggest that you allow debate to proceed. Let us debate here. It is time to test whether Members really care, whether they come here to debate for the benefit of Kenyans, or they come here to debate for other reasons. Do they pay attention or not? I would request that you allow that we debate this Bill at the Second Reading. Let us test whether Members understand or not. I thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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