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    "id": 1110330,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Murkomen",
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        "legal_name": "Onesimus Kipchumba Murkomen",
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    "content": "there. They want to ensure that the person there is someone that listens to them for tribal or whatever reasons. Good managers that would have served in other parts of the country are told to look for jobs in other areas. Some of this is as a result from pressure from voters; that want them to only hire people that come from their community. Madam Temporary Speaker, there resignation of key personnel. This is the example that I gave in my advice to the Ministry of Health in 2012. There would be resignation of key personnel. Go and check how many health workers have had to resign in many of the counties? Why? It is because of poor management of the local labour, including the payment of the health workers. Some are even paid their salaries after four months. This is not a good practice. The last thing that I advised the Ministry on health practitioners is that there will be low staff morale. That is a fact all over the country. That is true in Elgeyo-Marakwet County. This is a problem that we must think of how to solve it. We must delve into it deeply and deal with it. Sen. (Dr.) Ali is attempting to establish a council in this Bill. This council is meant to advise the Cabinet Secretary (CS) on policy, uniform names and standards. I advise him that this particular part must be reviewed. You cannot advise the CS on a function that he has no role at the county level. If the role is advisory, then it must be an advice not just to the CS, but to the Council of Governors (CoG) or county governments on uniform names and standards that should be applied across the country. Madam Temporary Speaker, the Constitution already says that the CS has a policy responsibility at the national level. The question that we are asking ourselves is a key problem that Sen. (Dr.) Ali is trying to deal with here. I really feel sympathetic from the health workers. In 2010, 2012 and 2013, devolution caught some national Government staff who were serving in say Kisumu County or any other county. They were told that if they finish in Kisumu, they would be transferred back to Nairobi or Mombasa. They did that. They were employed knowing that they are not locked to one county. However, when devolution arrived, they were locked in that county. When they want to move from one county to another, they are told to apply as a new job. This is the problem that Sen. (Dr.) Ali is dealing with here. That problem cannot be dealt with by merely creating an advisory board. I also advise Sen. (Dr.) Ali to expand the amendment of this Bill to the extent of creating an intergovernmental structure of transfer of staff with their emoluments and benefits from one county to another. This is so that these people do not throw the responsibility to advise. We can go ahead and say that Article 137 of the Constitution allows for intergovernmental relations structures. Let us put in place a mandatory legislative framework that makes it possible for county governments and as a matter of right, for a staff that is moving from county ‘x’ to county ‘y’, we put in place the request, transfer the emoluments of that staff and ensure that their benefits and jobs are protected from one county to another. Perhaps we should create a mechanism under the Salaries and Remuneration Commission (SRC) which advises counties on the minimum to pay. However, there must be a proper structure of SRC that creates the minimum a county can pay because it only creates the maximum. They must give us the minimum a doctor, nurse or other health"
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