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    "content": "Later on, when they grow up and they have gone to school, and some of them have gone to university, they realize that they actually made a mistake. They should have been Kenyans. When they now come for the national identity card, we check our records and we find that they are already in our database as refugees. So, we tell them that we cannot register them because they are refugees. Then they say: “No, I only went there because of the food ration and education, but I want to come back and say the truth.” So, we have that problem. There is another category of refugees who cheat and get our national identity cards. They are few, but they are there. Later on, by some fortune, they get a chance to go abroad, get jobs and live there, and get green cards. Then they come to our department and they want us to give them recommendation, so that they can go abroad. When we check, we tell them: “But you are a Kenyan and we cannot recommend you to go abroad”. They say: “No, I am not a Kenyan. I just cheated that I was a Kenyan because I wanted to use the identity card to get a job.” There is this problem. So, we have a serious problem of cleaning our database of people, who crossed our borders, some said they are Kenyans when they should not be and others said that they are non-Kenyans when they are Kenyans. So, that is a problem. That is why vigilance at our registration centres is a little more heightened because of that serious problem, which is a serious threat to our security."
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