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    "id": 1111868,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Poghisio",
    "speaker_title": "The Senate Majority Leader",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 202,
        "legal_name": "Samuel Losuron Poghisio",
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    "content": "when I was getting an ID because that was when they were just beginning to issue modern IDs. I think I was among the first 6 million Kenyans to get a modern ID. At that time, the Government was keen on issuing IDs. Sometimes I feel in areas where some of us come from, especially those of us who live along international boundaries - my county is on an international boundary - we have to have a vetting committee. Some people are reluctant to go to the vetting committee because of the difficulties of being vetted. For example, they will ask you to bring the ID of your father or grandfather, which most people do not have. Even at my age, they will ask me to bring my grandmother’s ID and yet I have never seen my grandmother. These are some of the issues that present difficulties. Also in those days, people were not able to access IDs. I am just saying that let us be facilitative not prohibitive in issuing IDs. That vetting committee should be facilitative. If somebody says so and so can identify me, and that so and so is a person known in the community, then that person should be allowed to identify that person who is seeking an ID. Any adult who has property like cows, is married and has children, and comes to say I want an ID, surely what other vetting does this person need apart from his resources? He has already been identified through his family. I do believe that it is possible for us to simplify and make it easy for Kenyans to get an ID. Of course, there will be times when security must come in to identify certain people because there are people who want IDs for wrong reasons. However, those are easy to tell. One thing we must fight is the fact that there are people who might desire to become citizens of this country and there are processes for them to become citizens. There should be no shortcuts. People should be facilitated to become citizens because this country is very attractive. Our laws are very clear how you become a citizen but there are Kenyans who are disadvantaged because they did not go to school. I am saying this because I come from a place like that where majority of the people did not go to school, did not go to clinics to have their babies and they do not know how to write records of when those babies were born. As a result, most of our passports indicate that everybody was born on 1st January and the particular year because some people do not know when they were born. At least give us the IDs and make sure that we make it easy for our people. The interesting thing about our country is that you need an ID for everything. Bearing this in mind it should be made available. I want to urge the people from my county, particularly those living along the Ugandan border, those are the people who do not get IDs easily because they have to be vetted. I would like to urge those who have IDs that the ID is not just for you to keep in the house; the ID is required for voting. I want them to go and register as voters. I know sometimes our people do not know where to keep the ID and sometimes they lose them. However, those who have IDs or know their ID numbers should go and be registered. Alongside the registration of voters, there should be people who can replace IDs for people who have lost theirs. Our people are pastoralists; they are nomadic. They do not have places to keep these documents and sometimes they lose them. However, they"
}