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    "content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, this Constitution is also trying to help us to tighten some loose ends. When we talk about leadership in the new Constitution, it has been there before, but we had loose ends when it came to issues of integrity. Most of the people who have been appointed in high positions in this country, including the leaders that we have had, initially have been men and women of high integrity, but as time goes by, they lose track. We have not had a way of checking them and putting them under control. I am grateful that this Constitution is taking care of that. When we talk about devolution in the Constitution, this is something that has been talked about a lot and it has a lot of definitions according to the dictionary. But what Kenyans are looking at when we talk about devolution, they want to see that the resources that emanate from the top reach them at the bottom. They want to see fairness. They want to participate in whatever goes on in their areas of jurisdiction. I am also grateful to note that the Constitution, in the Bill of Rights and the other aspects which we were taken through, in general terms takes care of the so-called marginalized groups and minorities. I did not want to talk about the issue of the Kadhis courts, but I will just have to touch on it. I do not see the reason why the Kadhis courts should be contained in the Constitution. If this Constitution goes to the referendum and it is opposed, then we will go back to the old Constitution. Then we will go back to the Kadhis courts in the Constitution. The current Constitution has Kadhis courts. It is proper for people to think sensibly. I said the other day when we were at Kabete that I was born a Muslim in Vihiga, where we are a minority. My people have voted for me twice. I have never interfered in matters of religion in the constituency. That is the reason why they still vote for me. So, sensible Kenyans will not go into the issues of religion. This is a matter of God and people should do what they think their creator feels is good for them. I would like us not to go into these issues. I know they were bringing up the issue of abortion in order to bring up the issue of the Kadhis courts. Even those who are talking about abortion, that is, the leaders in the Catholic Church; the sisters and nuns, are not even going to give birth themselves. They are talking about something that is not going to happen to them. So, they are misrepresenting themselves."
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