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    "speaker_name": "Homa Bay Town, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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        "legal_name": "George Peter Opondo Kaluma",
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    "content": "very persuasive. We have also listened to the Mover of the Bill. While I may agree with what Hon. Duale and those speaking in support have said, I do not agree with them in terms of the manner they are proposing we deal with the matter. The Bill is listed as Order No. 13. It has not yet been called. A number of us here, possibly, came to debate it. We are being told there are unconstitutional provisions within the Bill and we are not being told whether it is the entire Bill or just some parts of it. In all fairness, I was going to propose that as you determine the issue, you allow this matter to be moved. Hon. Duale and the other Members who are of the view that there are unconstitutional provisions in the Bill can then raise those issues so that the House can make a decision on them once and for all. I fear that if we push all these matters to the Chair, we will put her in a very awkward position. Persons initiating Bills will be blaming the Chair of this House for killing them. I, therefore, want to reserve my position on the matters that have been raised. Some very sensitive matters have been raised. We are lucky that through their representations, we already know that there could be problems. Let us debate the Bill and proceed. Unless the Mover persuades us on those issues, the Question will be put and we kill it with alacrity at the end of Second Reading. Luckily, Hon. Duale and company have raised our antennas on it. However, we will not be doing justice to you to expect you to make a determination on constitutionality of the Bill, which appears to touch on certain sectors, without reference to the House. Let the House, as an institution, make the ultimate decision on some of these things. Thank you, Hon. Speaker."
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