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    "id": 1122652,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1122652/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Nominated, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Prof.) Jacqueline Oduol",
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        "legal_name": "Jacquiline Adhiambo Oduol",
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    "content": " I think you are, but I hope you will allow me to just indicate that there is a sense in which, even with that response, the problem of the gap between policy and practice is there. When we look at the programmes that are projected, the reason we were talking about indigenisation is that the programmes are coming into a context where even if they were to be presented, they really would not handle the issue. So, I think I will leave it at that point and say that even as it is presented, it is lacking in what is the hallmark which would be that the State would be on the driver’s seat. Currently, it is partners that are talking about rights. There are no responsibilities. When you try to get children taught on how it is that they engage, it is called child labour. That is the case when you talk about issues that are happening in the family. The overall thing I would say is that I believe it is still not very adequately addressed. We will have programmes and interjections, but unless the State gets into the driver’s seat and contextualises matters, it will not be satisfactory. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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